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Oct. 9th, 2009 11:37 am (UTC)
this link seems to facebook homepage, dear. I may be doing something wrong, but could there might be another url for what is making you think?
Oct. 9th, 2009 11:48 am (UTC)
Fixed. Try now.
Oct. 9th, 2009 11:51 am (UTC)
Oh, thank you for that. That is wonderful.
Oct. 9th, 2009 12:18 pm (UTC)
Why you gotta make me think?
Okay, I had to think about this for a bit, and then I had to ask Katie a few questions. Then I thinked some more.

This is really interesting concept article but this part really put me off:

"One possible conclusion reached from this experiment could be this: If we do not have a moment to stop and listen to one of the best musicians in the world, playing some of the finest music ever written, with one of the most beautiful instruments ever made.... How many other things are we missing?"

because it doesn't take into account one of the major reasons that some guy is going to get $32 playing in a subway stop and people will play $100/seat to hear him in a concert hall.

Those subway stops are partially open cement blocks. A single violin (however expensive) played (however well) in a acoustically nightmarish space that echos harshly and is also filled with the sounds of moving people, machinery, and traffic is not beautiful music.

Heck, under the best circumstances a solo violin is often a too-loud, strident, harsh sound. Violins are pack animals, they cooperate well, and even the great soloists bring along an accompanist orchestra or quartet or piano for backup when going to a big fight.

when we lived on the lake there used to be a bag piper who would go and practice in the park on the far side of the lake. I never heard piping so beautiful. Put the world champion pipers in my bathroom with me and it's not going to be beautiful.

Look at the picture, the cement wall says it all. King David could sit there any play on his harp and nobody is going to look twice because it'll sound like crap in that venue. This is why we have concert halls for concerts and metro stations for people who want to get somewhere on time.

There is no constant variable in this experiment, one element has been placed in an improper setting and people who are in that setting because they want to use that setting's primary function are being judged at how they respond to the senseless element.

Next time, put the musician in a park or on the steps of a museum, in a place where people are not present with a primary time-based objective. Where the urge to stay or go may be followed without it being a damaging choice.

Maybe put him out in the quad of a school during lunch or when classes are changing.

It's a neat experiment and a set of interesting observations, but the conclusions have no relation to what actually happened and was observed and a major component of the aesthetic experience was totally ignored. Much more interesting was the data as it might apply to busking. About 20ish people gave money, he collected $32. Those who were supportive of the art in the way they could be given their time limits didn't just chuck in a nickle.

And yes, I'm totally going to fixate on this issue and ignore all the people who are being impossibly mean about the President's Nobel Prize (listening to them is very much like being trapped in a small cement box with a bad violinist). Moo.
Oct. 9th, 2009 12:27 pm (UTC)
Re: Why you gotta make me think?
If you follow the link at the bottom of the article to Wikipedia's entry on Bell you'll see that the actual article about the experiment (not what I linked to) was apparently good enough to get a Pulitzer. It might be worthwhile to dig it up. I'm not sure whether the conclusion in what I linked to was the researchers' original conclusion or if it was Eddie Green's personal reflection on the results.
Oct. 9th, 2009 12:55 pm (UTC)
Re: Why you gotta make me think?

Interesting piece. Is this good journalism? I don't think I read enough entertainment news to get a feel for what this is saying. I'm confused, but I'm rereading and I'm only mildly annoyed to be agreeing with old Mr. Kant.

My thinker... she hurts... so good.
Oct. 9th, 2009 01:54 pm (UTC)
Re: Why you gotta make me think?
I love it!

and while I think that 'dicea has some very good points on the nature of experiments from a scientific method point of view -I also would not stop and listen to beautiful music if I was going to lose a job over it- the thing that jumped out at me was the reactions of the children. The ones NOT focused on or caring about being somewhere on time, the ones still much more open to wonder... I try to nurture that in my own kids and in myself: "look!" and sometimes "listen- do you smell something?" ;)
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